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joesforte · 08-24-2010, 09:35 PM

Now I know I have seen this thread either here or on another form, but I have never seen any clear answers... How many Forte owners out there are changing their own oil? If you are changing your own oil what oil filter are you using? This is the key question as I believe KIA is trying to get us by saying we have to use their filters.

P.S. By the way it is not just the use of the filter that is getting me, every time I take it to the dealer it seems to take about 60 - 90 minutes to do a simple oil change and car wash??? Seems a little long in my book...

Thanks

**ItsaRuck!** · 08-24-2010, 09:45 PM

(08-24-2010 09:35 PM)joesforte Wrote: Now I know I have seen this thread either here or on another form, but I have never seen any clear answers... How many Forte owners out there are changing their own oil? If you are changing your own oil what oil filter are you using? This is the key question as I believe KIA is trying to get us by saying we have to use their filters.

P.S. By the way it is not just the use of the filter that is getting me, every time I take it to the dealer it seems to take about 60 - 90 minutes to do a simple oil change and car wash??? Seems a little long in my book...

Thanks

When I do my first change (1000 miles), I will being using a Wix filter and Mobil 1 5W20. From then on, the interval will be 7500 miles.

KoupCoupe · (This post was last modified: 08-24-2010 11:22 PM by KoupCoupe.)

I do my own oil changes. I use Castrol 5w-20 and kia oil filters. I purposely buy my filters at the dealership so they'll have a record of purchases should I have any engine problems -- and document the oil changes in the small book in the glovebox. The filters only cost a buck or two more that aftermarket filters but I like having the purchase information at Kia. I don't care about time -- when I change the oil I don't rush it so I can do a good job!

mschiavoni · 08-24-2010, 11:46 PM

(08-24-2010 09:35 PM)joesforte Wrote: P.S. By the way it is not just the use of the filter that is getting me, every time I take it to the dealer it seems to take about 60 - 90 minutes to do a simple oil change and car wash??? Seems a little long in my book...

Thanks

you have to remember that they have other cars they have to work on as well lol

and the Kia oil filter has the oil pressure regulator built-in, so if you DON'T use it, your check engine light may come on due to an oil pressure issue

**ItsaRuck!** · 08-25-2010, 01:01 AM

(08-24-2010 11:46 PM)mschiavoni Wrote: you have to remember that they have other cars they have to work on as well lol

and the Kia oil filter has the oil pressure regulator built-in, so if you DON'T use it, your check engine light may come on due to an oil pressure issue

If you're talking about the Bypass Valve, all filters have that. Some have better ones. Fram definitely has the worst, and causes some issues with the engines in these cars that resulted in a TSB warning years ago. There is no requirement for you to buy only a Kia filter. If there is in order to maintain your warranty, then Kia has to give you the filter free of charge because of the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, the Clean Air Act and general principles of the U.S. Federal Trade Commission Act. Read this from the Filter manufacturer's Council.

There are fewer filter manufacturers than car makers. As such, OEM filters are made by aftermarket filter manufacturers and rebranded. From what I've been able to determine, Wix is the closest to and may even be who is making Kia filters.

joesforte · 08-25-2010, 01:46 AM

(08-24-2010 11:46 PM)mschiavoni Wrote: you have to remember that they have other cars they have to work on as well lol

I have always had first appointment in the morning just for that cause but I am not faulting them just looking for a workable alternative.

mschiavoni · (This post was last modified: 08-26-2010 10:51 PM by mschiavoni.)

(08-25-2010 01:01 AM)ItsaRuck! Wrote: If you're talking about the Bypass Valve, all filters have that. Some have better ones. Fram definitely has the worst, and causes some issues with the engines in these cars that resulted in a TSB warning years ago. There is no requirement for you to buy only a Kia filter. If there is in order to maintain your warranty, then Kia has to give you the filter free of charge because of the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, the Clean Air Act and general principles of the U.S. Federal Trade Commission Act. Read this from the Filter manufacturer's Council.

There are fewer filter manufacturers than car makers. As such, OEM filters are made by aftermarket filter manufacturers and rebranded. From what I've been able to determine, Wix is the closest to and may even be who is making Kia filters.

no it actually REGULATES the pressure of the oil. my ex-boss showed me

(08-25-2010 01:46 AM)joesforte Wrote: I have always had first appointment in the morning just for that cause but I am not faulting them just looking for a workable alternative.

believe it or not they have cars that are there when they come in in the morning, sometimes cars that take 2-3 days (sometimes up to 3 weeks) lol

**ItsaRuck!** · 08-26-2010, 11:19 PM

(08-26-2010 10:49 PM)mschiavoni Wrote: no it actually REGULATES the pressure of the oil. my ex-boss showed me

I hate to disappoint you, but pressure regulation is done by the engine not the filter. I suspect your boss was showing you the bypass valve that opens when the pressure drops below a certain level such as during hard acceleration or when the filter medium gets clogged. Kia has nothing special when it comes to an oil filter, just their name on the one they sell. Next time you change your oil, cut the filter open and compare it to the picture on the side of Wix filter box. Then post the pictures here. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong.

joesforte · 08-27-2010, 12:29 AM

So I got the WIX filter and used Penzoil Platnium Synthetic 5W-20 for the change. I saved the filter and will probably take it apart sometime next week. I will also be doing an analysis on the oil i saved as well as the Penzoil synthetic after some time. If all goes well my next change will be Amsoil. Thanks

**ItsaRuck!** · 08-27-2010, 01:28 AM

(08-27-2010 12:29 AM)joesforte Wrote: So I got the WIX filter and used Penzoil Platnium Synthetic 5W-20 for the change. I saved the filter and will probably take it apart sometime next week. I will also be doing an analysis on the oil i saved as well as the Penzoil synthetic after some time. If all goes well my next change will be Amsoil. Thanks

I'll be looking forward to the pictures. I've been using the Platinum for 3 years on my Vibe and have been happy. Amsoil is good, but overpriced. For that reason, I'll be using Mobil 1. I would prefer using Royal Purple, but until they produce an SM rated oil, and with Kia's warranty, that won't be happening.